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		<title>How should the Pirates divvy out playing time in the near future?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pirates have had a lot of injuries this season. This, we know. In fact, let&#8217;s take a look at the list of players currently on the disabled list to refresh our memories. 7-Day DL: Ronny Cedeno 15-Day DL: Pedro &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2011/07/06/how-should-the-pirates-divvy-out-playing-time-in-the-near-future/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pirates have had a lot of injuries this season. This, we know. In  fact, let&#8217;s take a look at the list of players currently on the  disabled list to refresh our memories.</p>
<p>7-Day DL:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cedenro02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ronny  Cedeno</a></strong></p>
<p>15-Day DL:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarpe01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Pedro  Alvarez</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tabatjo01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Jose  Tabata</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pearcst01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Steven  Pearce</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beimejo01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Joe  Beimel</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/doumiry01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ryan  Doumit</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/meekev01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Evan  Meek</a></strong></p>
<p>60-Day DL:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/snydech02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Chris  Snyder</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hartke01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Kevin  Hart</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohlenro01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ross  Ohlendorf</a></strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s  a pretty long list, and one that includes six starters and the guy who  started the season as the set-up man. The good news is we should start  to see some of these players returning soon. However, this may cause a  log jam at a few positions&#8230;after all, some of these replacements have  played pretty well. So here&#8217;s a breakdown of what I think should happen  when these players return:</p>
<p>C:</p>
<p>Barring a setback, Doumit is  supposedly on target to return to action late this month. Then again,  this is Doumit we&#8217;re talking about and he&#8217;ll probably have a setback.  Snyder is probably out for the year with a back injury. That&#8217;s left the  team splitting playing time with <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mckenmi01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Michael  McKenry</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fryerer01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Eric  Fryer</a></strong>. Both  have played good defense, but neither of them have shown an ability to  hit in their limited number of plate appearances. McKenry has been  getting the lion&#8217;s share of the starts.</p>
<p>When Doumit comes back,  the odds are he&#8217;ll be the starting catcher. He&#8217;s improved his defense  from &#8220;easily the worst in baseball&#8221; to &#8220;probably around average,&#8221; and  he&#8217;s the best hitter of the bunch in a lineup that definitely needs some  offense. Fryer and McKenry would both make decent backups, but I see  the nod going to McKenry. Fryer is a prospect, while McKenry is an  organizational guy, so I imagine that the team would rather see Fryer  getting starts at the AAA level than riding the pine at the Major League  level &#8211; especially since he only played 21 games in AAA before getting  called up.</p>
<p>3B:</p>
<p>This one is a no brainer. When <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarpe01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Pedro  Alvarez</a></strong> comes back, he&#8217;ll start. The bench spot will be either <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harrijo05.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Josh  Harrison</a></strong> or  <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/woodbr01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Brandon  Wood</a></strong>. Before Chase d&#8217;Arnaud&#8217;s call-up, this spot would have  gone to Wood simply because he could play SS if needed. Now, it could go  either way. The likely scenario is that Wood will still get the nod  because Harrison has options left and can be sent to AAA without  exposing him to waivers, but Harrison has been the better of the two  players and probably has more of a future as a utility man in the Major  Leagues. However, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pearcst01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Steven  Pearce</a></strong> can play all the positions that Harrison  can with the exception of 2B and he&#8217;s a much better hitter, so it will  likely be Harrison going to AAA when all these players are active.</p>
<p>OF:</p>
<p>Alex  Presley has very much impressed in his short time in the Majors. He&#8217;s  showcased speed, extra base power, good defense and good plate  discipline, and he&#8217;s hit Major League pitching pretty much exactly as  well as he was hitting AAA pitching, posting a .324/.381/.541 line.  Unless he&#8217;s a future Hall of Famer, he probably won&#8217;t continue to hit  that well, but he&#8217;s definitely earned a starting spot and demonstrated  that he can hit Major League pitching well. When Tabata comes back, I  can see <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesga02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Garrett  Jones</a></strong> moving to first base and Presley moving to right  field full time. This would also have the effect of benching the  ineffective <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/overbly01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Lyle  Overbay</a></strong>, who the Pirates may just cut if they go this  route. Ideally, the team would also platoon Pearce at first with Jones,  since Jones can&#8217;t hit lefties to save his life while Pearce eats them  for breakfast.</p>
<p>SS:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure when Pirates fans decided  that <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cedenro02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ronny  Cedeno</a></strong> was a great player, but for some reason this is the  most controversial roster decision in terms of the fan base. Here are  the facts as I see them:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ronny Cedeno has played excellent defense this season &#8211; some of the best in the Majors at his position. HOWEVER</li>
<li>Cedeno is terrible at hitting, so even though he&#8217;s played amazing  defense, he&#8217;s only accumulated a 1.1 WAR this season. In other words,  awesome glove or not, he&#8217;s been a replacement level player.</li>
<li>Cedeno has been better at hitting as of late, but he&#8217;s known to be  streaky and even though he&#8217;s been better he still hasn&#8217;t been good or  even average for a SS with the stick.</li>
</ul>
<p>All that said, Chase d&#8217;Arnaud hasn&#8217;t torn the cover off the ball  yet either, and while he&#8217;s a lot more fun to watch than Cedeno, his  defense isn&#8217;t as good. Of the two, Cedeno may be the better option.  However, d&#8217;Arnaud is most likely the future of the SS position in  Pittsburgh. He&#8217;s shown flashes of the things that made him good in the  minors &#8211; the gap power, the speed, the solid defense &#8211; but 12 games  isn&#8217;t really enough time to put it all together in the Majors. My  solution would be to keep d&#8217;Arnaud up and get him two starts a week to  see what he can do, and if he outplays Cedeno make him the starter. The  team&#8217;s solution, on the other hand, will probably be to keep Brandon  Wood around and send d&#8217;Arnaud back to AAA&#8230;and I can&#8217;t say I strongly  oppose that idea, either.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> I completely forgot that <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/ciriape01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Pedro  Ciriaco</a></strong> is on the current Major League team. That&#8217;s not entirely surprising, since Ciriaco literally never plays. He&#8217;s obviously going to be the first one sent down when Cedeno comes back.</p>
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		<title>The most infuriating thing about this team</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 05:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>naterose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we take a look at all the fundamental mistakes this team has been making as of late &#8211; from the baserunning gaffes to the fielding errors to all kinds of other mental mistakes, I think the most infuriating thing &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2010/06/30/the-most-infuriating-thing-about-this-team/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we take a look at all the fundamental mistakes this team has been making as of late &#8211; from the baserunning gaffes to the fielding errors to all kinds of other mental mistakes, I think the most infuriating thing about the 2010 Pirates is that it&#8217;s coming from players that should know better.</p>
<p>The Pirates have four players in their everyday lineup &#8211; Andrew McCutchen, Neil Walker, Pedro Alvarez and Jose Tabata &#8211; who are either rookies or in their second year of Major League baseball. All of them are young players, Walker being the oldest at 24. It would be easy to point to this fact and say &#8220;that&#8217;s why we have so many fundamental mistakes. There are so many young players.&#8221;</p>
<p>This all came to a head for me today when I was listening to Rocco DeMaro&#8217;s post-game show Extra Innings, and Greg Brown said he thought the team should get a veteran like Cincinnati did with Scott Rolen, and talking about how in Texas they have a lot of young players and he had heard a story about how they all listen to Michael Young because of his experience. He then dismissed the previous signings of guys like Doug Mientkiewicz and Eric Hinske (and presumably Ryan Church this year) because none of them were starters.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably some truth to the fact that young players tend to listen to what veterans have to say when it comes to playing the game. Speaking personally, if I were a rookie I would soak up every bit of information I could from veterans.</p>
<p>The problem is, it&#8217;s not the young players that keep making the mistakes, it&#8217;s the team&#8217;s veterans! While guys like Pedro Alvarez have made a few physical mistakes such as striking out way too often, I can&#8217;t recall seeing any of the four players I named above make a mental mistake this season. That&#8217;s come from the team&#8217;s vets.</p>
<p>Ryan Doumit has made mistake after mistake this season, both physical and mental. He&#8217;s been a big leaguer since 2005, yet he almost cost the Pirates a game because he tried to tag up from second with one out as the go-ahead run, and then he didn&#8217;t even slide when he ran home.</p>
<p>Lastings Milledge may only be 25 years old, but remember that he was once considered to be the next big thing in baseball and came up at a young age. He&#8217;s been in the Majors since 2006, only a year less than Doumit. His baserunning errors and misjudgement in the outfield both when running routes and when deciding whether or not to dive have reached nearly legendary status in Pittsburgh.</p>
<p>Ronny Cedeno and Bobby Crosby are both experienced shortstops, with Cedeno having been in the Majors since 2005 and Crosby since 2003. Despite a strong defensive showing, Cedeno made so many gaffes at the plate and on the bases that he&#8217;s effectively been benched in favor of Crosby, and Crosby has responded by playing even worse, collecting seven errors in his fifteen games at short.</p>
<p>This team doesn&#8217;t need any veteran leadership, it needs to play like its rookies have.</p>
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		<title>Something has to be done about Ryan Doumit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>naterose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I talked about Ryan Doumit&#8217;s terrible defense in my last post, but after his error at first base in last night&#8217;s game literally cost the Pirates a win, I think it&#8217;s time to expound on that. There&#8217;s no two ways &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2010/06/13/something-has-to-be-done-about-ryan-doumit/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked about Ryan Doumit&#8217;s terrible defense in my last post, but after his error at first base in last night&#8217;s game literally cost the Pirates a win, I think it&#8217;s time to expound on that.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no two ways about it: Ryan Doumit is horrible at everything but hitting. We saw last night what he does when at first base, and as a catcher he allows too many passed balls, has gunned down only four would-be base thieves as compared to the 47 who have stolen off him, and has trouble with simple things like blocking the plate.</p>
<p>The fact is, Doumit is not going to be a long-term problem with his glove for the Pirates. With Tony Sanchez coming up the pipe, we&#8217;ll have a catcher that was rated as the best defensive catcher in the draft class, and who scouts said was defensively ready for the big leagues the day he was drafted. It also helps that he&#8217;s been hitting well in the minor leagues so far. And with Jason Jaramillo on the big-league club and Erik Kratz in AAA, the team has two solid if unspectacular options to go to if Doumit were to be traded.</p>
<p>The catch here is that catcher &#8211; a position that Doumit is terrible at &#8211; is the only position he can be without having a below-average bat. Doumit is a career .272/.334/.447 line. Those numbers are above average for a catcher, but very poor for a first baseman, designated hitter or outfielder. It makes one wonder if a team would want him in the first place.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not saying Doumit has no value to an AL club. A designated hitter who can also be an emergency catcher, first baseman or outfielder has some value. I&#8217;m just saying that the return will probably be minimal, and if Doumit is traded, we should think of it more as a move to get him off the diamond than as a move to acquire talent.</p>
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		<title>Just a thought about interleague play</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>naterose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Historically, interleague play is when the Pirates fall off the face of the earth into an abyss that they never recover from for the rest of the season. While most of that has to do with the fact that they&#8217;re &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2010/06/12/just-a-thought-about-interleague-play/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historically, interleague play is when the Pirates fall off the face of the earth into an abyss that they never recover from for the rest of the season.</p>
<p>While most of that has to do with the fact that they&#8217;re not a very good team, I can&#8217;t help but thinking that some of it has to do with things like leaving Ryan Doumit &#8211; who is bad at everything except hitting &#8211; to play first base and using Ryan Church, owner of a .198/.243/.337 line as the designated hitter.</p>
<p>There were some other questionable moves in today&#8217;s lineup as well, such as benching Jose Tabata for just his third game in the Majors despite him having hit the ground running.</p>
<p>However, on the most fundamental level, I feel like you should definitely take a guy who can hit well and who is a liability everywhere he plays on the diamond and make sure that for the few games a year that this is a possibility for a National League club that the only thing he does is hit.</p>
<p>Just saying.</p>
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