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		<title>How should the Pirates divvy out playing time in the near future?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pirates have had a lot of injuries this season. This, we know. In fact, let&#8217;s take a look at the list of players currently on the disabled list to refresh our memories. 7-Day DL: Ronny Cedeno 15-Day DL: Pedro &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2011/07/06/how-should-the-pirates-divvy-out-playing-time-in-the-near-future/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pirates have had a lot of injuries this season. This, we know. In  fact, let&#8217;s take a look at the list of players currently on the  disabled list to refresh our memories.</p>
<p>7-Day DL:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cedenro02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ronny  Cedeno</a></strong></p>
<p>15-Day DL:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarpe01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Pedro  Alvarez</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tabatjo01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Jose  Tabata</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pearcst01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Steven  Pearce</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beimejo01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Joe  Beimel</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/doumiry01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ryan  Doumit</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/meekev01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Evan  Meek</a></strong></p>
<p>60-Day DL:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/snydech02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Chris  Snyder</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hartke01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Kevin  Hart</a></strong><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohlenro01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ross  Ohlendorf</a></strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s  a pretty long list, and one that includes six starters and the guy who  started the season as the set-up man. The good news is we should start  to see some of these players returning soon. However, this may cause a  log jam at a few positions&#8230;after all, some of these replacements have  played pretty well. So here&#8217;s a breakdown of what I think should happen  when these players return:</p>
<p>C:</p>
<p>Barring a setback, Doumit is  supposedly on target to return to action late this month. Then again,  this is Doumit we&#8217;re talking about and he&#8217;ll probably have a setback.  Snyder is probably out for the year with a back injury. That&#8217;s left the  team splitting playing time with <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mckenmi01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Michael  McKenry</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fryerer01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Eric  Fryer</a></strong>. Both  have played good defense, but neither of them have shown an ability to  hit in their limited number of plate appearances. McKenry has been  getting the lion&#8217;s share of the starts.</p>
<p>When Doumit comes back,  the odds are he&#8217;ll be the starting catcher. He&#8217;s improved his defense  from &#8220;easily the worst in baseball&#8221; to &#8220;probably around average,&#8221; and  he&#8217;s the best hitter of the bunch in a lineup that definitely needs some  offense. Fryer and McKenry would both make decent backups, but I see  the nod going to McKenry. Fryer is a prospect, while McKenry is an  organizational guy, so I imagine that the team would rather see Fryer  getting starts at the AAA level than riding the pine at the Major League  level &#8211; especially since he only played 21 games in AAA before getting  called up.</p>
<p>3B:</p>
<p>This one is a no brainer. When <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarpe01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Pedro  Alvarez</a></strong> comes back, he&#8217;ll start. The bench spot will be either <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harrijo05.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Josh  Harrison</a></strong> or  <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/woodbr01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Brandon  Wood</a></strong>. Before Chase d&#8217;Arnaud&#8217;s call-up, this spot would have  gone to Wood simply because he could play SS if needed. Now, it could go  either way. The likely scenario is that Wood will still get the nod  because Harrison has options left and can be sent to AAA without  exposing him to waivers, but Harrison has been the better of the two  players and probably has more of a future as a utility man in the Major  Leagues. However, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pearcst01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Steven  Pearce</a></strong> can play all the positions that Harrison  can with the exception of 2B and he&#8217;s a much better hitter, so it will  likely be Harrison going to AAA when all these players are active.</p>
<p>OF:</p>
<p>Alex  Presley has very much impressed in his short time in the Majors. He&#8217;s  showcased speed, extra base power, good defense and good plate  discipline, and he&#8217;s hit Major League pitching pretty much exactly as  well as he was hitting AAA pitching, posting a .324/.381/.541 line.  Unless he&#8217;s a future Hall of Famer, he probably won&#8217;t continue to hit  that well, but he&#8217;s definitely earned a starting spot and demonstrated  that he can hit Major League pitching well. When Tabata comes back, I  can see <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesga02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Garrett  Jones</a></strong> moving to first base and Presley moving to right  field full time. This would also have the effect of benching the  ineffective <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/overbly01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Lyle  Overbay</a></strong>, who the Pirates may just cut if they go this  route. Ideally, the team would also platoon Pearce at first with Jones,  since Jones can&#8217;t hit lefties to save his life while Pearce eats them  for breakfast.</p>
<p>SS:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure when Pirates fans decided  that <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cedenro02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ronny  Cedeno</a></strong> was a great player, but for some reason this is the  most controversial roster decision in terms of the fan base. Here are  the facts as I see them:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ronny Cedeno has played excellent defense this season &#8211; some of the best in the Majors at his position. HOWEVER</li>
<li>Cedeno is terrible at hitting, so even though he&#8217;s played amazing  defense, he&#8217;s only accumulated a 1.1 WAR this season. In other words,  awesome glove or not, he&#8217;s been a replacement level player.</li>
<li>Cedeno has been better at hitting as of late, but he&#8217;s known to be  streaky and even though he&#8217;s been better he still hasn&#8217;t been good or  even average for a SS with the stick.</li>
</ul>
<p>All that said, Chase d&#8217;Arnaud hasn&#8217;t torn the cover off the ball  yet either, and while he&#8217;s a lot more fun to watch than Cedeno, his  defense isn&#8217;t as good. Of the two, Cedeno may be the better option.  However, d&#8217;Arnaud is most likely the future of the SS position in  Pittsburgh. He&#8217;s shown flashes of the things that made him good in the  minors &#8211; the gap power, the speed, the solid defense &#8211; but 12 games  isn&#8217;t really enough time to put it all together in the Majors. My  solution would be to keep d&#8217;Arnaud up and get him two starts a week to  see what he can do, and if he outplays Cedeno make him the starter. The  team&#8217;s solution, on the other hand, will probably be to keep Brandon  Wood around and send d&#8217;Arnaud back to AAA&#8230;and I can&#8217;t say I strongly  oppose that idea, either.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> I completely forgot that <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/ciriape01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Pedro  Ciriaco</a></strong> is on the current Major League team. That&#8217;s not entirely surprising, since Ciriaco literally never plays. He&#8217;s obviously going to be the first one sent down when Cedeno comes back.</p>
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		<title>Blowout Watch 2011: Pirates 10, Cubs 0</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 20:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>naterose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#8217;t get to see this game due to work, having just gotten back in time for the end of it. Perusing the box score, it looks like Maholm pitched a gem. He threw a complete game shutout and only &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2011/05/28/blowout-watch-2011-pirates-10-cubs-0/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get to see this game due to work, having just gotten back in time for the end of it. Perusing the box score, it looks like Maholm pitched a gem. He threw a complete game shutout and only gave up three hits.</p>
<p>Four Pirates homered in this one &#8211; <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/snydech02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Chris  Snyder</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mccutan01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Andrew  McCutchen</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/overbly01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Lyle  Overbay</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cedenro02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ronny  Cedeno</a></strong>.</p>
<p>McCutchen is on pace for the most home runs of his career despite a slow start. He&#8217;s hitting a homer about once every 24 plate appearances as compared to once every 41 or so over his first few seasons. He&#8217;ll be overshadowed by <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?search=Jose+Bautista&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Jose  Bautista</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/grandcu01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Curtis  Granderson</a></strong> this year, but people in Pittsburgh will start to notice his power stroke soon enough. At his current pace, he&#8217;ll crack 20 homers for the first time in his career and unless he slows down he may approach or even crack 30 as well. As for that slow start, he&#8217;s hitting .303/.377/.566 since April 29. He&#8217;s also swiped six bags and been caught only once after going 3-for-6 before that date.</p>
<p>Any game in which Ronny Cedeno hits a three-run homer is a game the Pirates have to win.</p>
<p>Speaking of Cedeno, he&#8217;s been on a tear lately as well. After his 1-for-4 with a homer night tonight, his May line is up to .301/.372/.438. Those are great numbers for a SS, and while I don&#8217;t expect him to maintain them, it&#8217;s encouraging that he&#8217;s managed to draw 11 walks this month while striking out only 15 times. Cedeno has been a free for his entire career, and if he could learn some plate discipline and get on base more he may actually be an above-average shortstop.</p>
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		<title>Blowout Watch 2011: Pirates 10, Tigers 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>naterose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I didn&#8217;t think the Pirates would bounce back to .500 ball in blowouts the day after I posted this. And not only that, but this one was done in impressive fashion as the team easily took an interleague victory. &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2011/05/21/blowout-watch-2011-pirates-10-tigers-1/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I didn&#8217;t think the Pirates would bounce back to .500 ball in blowouts the day after I posted <a href="../2011/05/19/blowout-watch-2011-pirates-5-reds-0/" target="_blank">this.</a> And not only that, but this one was done in impressive fashion as the team easily took an interleague victory.</p>
<p>The Bucs handled this one easily. <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/karstje01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Jeff  Karstens</a></strong> was cruising,  allowing only three hits and a run through his six innings of work,  striking out four, walking nobody, and taking a no-hitter into the fifth  inning. For some reason, a lot of fans want <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lincobr01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Brad  Lincoln</a></strong> called up and  Karstens taken out of the rotation. While I&#8217;m  not opposed to the idea  of Lincoln getting a chance in the Majors, I think Karstens has earned  his stay in the rotation for a while as he&#8217;s sporting a 3-2 record and a  3.62 ERA. He has his problems going deep into games, but so do most  fifth starters. Let him stay in the rotation until he either proves he  can&#8217;t or Lincoln proves he&#8217;s too good to keep in AAA. Right now, neither  thing is happening.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/walkene01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Neil  Walker</a></strong> turned on beast mode in this one, collecting two hits  which both went for extra bases &#8211; a double and a homer. He collected  five RBIs on the day and six total bases hitting from the cleanup spot.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mccutan01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Andrew  McCutchen</a></strong> had a hit, a walk, and a steal, and looks to be  turning it on at the plate lately after a somewhat disappointing start  batting average wise.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cedenro02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Ronny  Cedeno</a></strong> continued his hot streak with a hit and a steal. He even  threw in a walk for good measure. Actually, Cedeno has been walking  much more recently than he normally does. Tonight&#8217;s game brings his  triple-slash to an unreal .322/.435/.458 since April 29. I know this  probably won&#8217;t last, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t enjoy it while it  does.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesga02.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Garrett  Jones</a></strong> had a single, a double and a walk, knocking in two runs.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tabatjo01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Jose  Tabata</a></strong> had two hits, two walks and three runs scored. Hopefully this is a sign of him breaking out of his slump.</p>
<p>Even <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/overbly01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Lyle  Overbay</a></strong> got in on the act, hitting a solo homer in the sixth inning.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s  great to see a strong performance from this team as we open interleague  play, as this is usually the point in the season when the team falls  off a cliff that they can never climb back up.</p>
<p>The only complaints I can possibly have about this game are that  <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alvarpe01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Pedro  Alvarez</a></strong> was on the bench for <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/woodbr01.shtml?utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_campaign=Linker" target="_blank">Brandon  Wood</a></strong> (an emerging trend that  I&#8217;m not at all a fan of &#8211; especially when Alvarez homered last night.)  and that I had Tabata on the bench in my fantasy league. The Bucs are  now playing .500 ball in blowouts. This is, again, a significant  improvement over their 2010 record of 11-39 in such games.</p>
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		<title>The most infuriating thing about this team</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 05:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>naterose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we take a look at all the fundamental mistakes this team has been making as of late &#8211; from the baserunning gaffes to the fielding errors to all kinds of other mental mistakes, I think the most infuriating thing &#8230; <a href="http://stealingfirstbase.com/2010/06/30/the-most-infuriating-thing-about-this-team/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we take a look at all the fundamental mistakes this team has been making as of late &#8211; from the baserunning gaffes to the fielding errors to all kinds of other mental mistakes, I think the most infuriating thing about the 2010 Pirates is that it&#8217;s coming from players that should know better.</p>
<p>The Pirates have four players in their everyday lineup &#8211; Andrew McCutchen, Neil Walker, Pedro Alvarez and Jose Tabata &#8211; who are either rookies or in their second year of Major League baseball. All of them are young players, Walker being the oldest at 24. It would be easy to point to this fact and say &#8220;that&#8217;s why we have so many fundamental mistakes. There are so many young players.&#8221;</p>
<p>This all came to a head for me today when I was listening to Rocco DeMaro&#8217;s post-game show Extra Innings, and Greg Brown said he thought the team should get a veteran like Cincinnati did with Scott Rolen, and talking about how in Texas they have a lot of young players and he had heard a story about how they all listen to Michael Young because of his experience. He then dismissed the previous signings of guys like Doug Mientkiewicz and Eric Hinske (and presumably Ryan Church this year) because none of them were starters.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably some truth to the fact that young players tend to listen to what veterans have to say when it comes to playing the game. Speaking personally, if I were a rookie I would soak up every bit of information I could from veterans.</p>
<p>The problem is, it&#8217;s not the young players that keep making the mistakes, it&#8217;s the team&#8217;s veterans! While guys like Pedro Alvarez have made a few physical mistakes such as striking out way too often, I can&#8217;t recall seeing any of the four players I named above make a mental mistake this season. That&#8217;s come from the team&#8217;s vets.</p>
<p>Ryan Doumit has made mistake after mistake this season, both physical and mental. He&#8217;s been a big leaguer since 2005, yet he almost cost the Pirates a game because he tried to tag up from second with one out as the go-ahead run, and then he didn&#8217;t even slide when he ran home.</p>
<p>Lastings Milledge may only be 25 years old, but remember that he was once considered to be the next big thing in baseball and came up at a young age. He&#8217;s been in the Majors since 2006, only a year less than Doumit. His baserunning errors and misjudgement in the outfield both when running routes and when deciding whether or not to dive have reached nearly legendary status in Pittsburgh.</p>
<p>Ronny Cedeno and Bobby Crosby are both experienced shortstops, with Cedeno having been in the Majors since 2005 and Crosby since 2003. Despite a strong defensive showing, Cedeno made so many gaffes at the plate and on the bases that he&#8217;s effectively been benched in favor of Crosby, and Crosby has responded by playing even worse, collecting seven errors in his fifteen games at short.</p>
<p>This team doesn&#8217;t need any veteran leadership, it needs to play like its rookies have.</p>
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